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Independent Review Needed for Weather Disasters and Warning Verification

July 30, 2026 by tornado Leave a Comment

As a 35-year national NWS forecaster and researcher in severe and tropical meteorology, I support the bipartisan National Weather Safety Board (NWSB) Act, which would provide an NTSB-like board review of weather disasters. Numerous other meteorologists and I have suggested something akin to this for many years.

While I agree with fellow retired NWS scientist Alan Gerard in his “Substack” column that it doesn’t do enough to evaluate non-weather disasters nor NWS performance, we shouldn’t let the perfect get in the way of the good. The NWSB Act would be a positive step toward learning from weather disasters in a systematic, consistent and accountable way, not the overpoliticized, self-interested, wagon-circling shams that the “NWS Service Assessments” often became.

Improving NWS verification services may need separate legislative action anyway, especially to address one of the most blatant, yet little-discussed, conflicts of interest that exist in all of federal government, and has for decades: verification of weather warnings by the very same offices that issue them (often, even the same forecasters).

This includes rampant use of estimated — as opposed to measured — wind and hail reports, with over 90% of thunderstorm-wind “verification” being estimates and, based on human wind-tunnel experiments, overestimates. [For much more on this, read a formally peer-reviewed, scientific publication that I lead-authored.] It’s a fox-guarding-henhouse verification system rife with opportunities for padding and inflation, regardless of how much actually happens (which is practically unknowable).

As someone who loves the NWS as a 35-year public servant there, and sees it as an extremely valuable service for the taxpayer (at a bit over a penny a person a day), its very integrity and scientific credibility depend on eliminating conflicts of interest, and ensuring optimal service through independent evaluation of both disaster services and warning performance.

One likely finding I already predict, with great confidence, will be that NWS technology and delivery each need vast improvement. Due in part to longstanding short-staffing and failure to encourage and enable true innovation, both NWS’ front-facing forecast suite (including web/app presence) and internal capabilities have become vastly outdated.

To wit, we should have been using four-dimensional, XYZ-plane-rotatable displays of model and radar fields by the time I retired, on touchscreens. That tech has been in the media at least 25 years, gaming industry since the late 1990s, Hollywood even earlier. Three-dimensional storm simulations have been around in research since 1978, on then-massive computers with less capacity than high-end gaming desktops and cloud computing of today, and finescale simulations of tornadoes and their parent supercells with Hollywood-quality graphic output were run a decade ago, on data far denser than modern operational weather models.

Instead, the most advanced severe-weather forecast operation in the world (SPC) still was — and remains — stuck with 30-year-old 2D display systems and having to mouse-click individual points on outlook lines (instead of using a stylus or finger to save time). The only 3D rotatable displays in the NWS are in licensed private-sector radar software (GR2 Analyst)!

We already should have had nationally deployed, phased-array, dual-polarization radar by 2011 when in reality, the old, greasy mechanical dishes (increasingly failure prone) were retrofitted with dual-pol. Both phased array and dual-pol tech, BTW, were in military and lab use before I was born. One is still not in our radars.

As for forecast presentation, technical discussions for other meteorologists still have their place, and should. Yet I agree with those who say we (NWS, of which I am a proud retiree) could do a much better job conveying threats in meaningful, animated, easy to understand ways. Yes, that should include robust app development and aggressive use of modern web capabilities—not handcuffing ourselves to the slowest common denominator of 486 processors and Netscape because somebody, somewhere, might still be using a teletype emulator. Hell, it wasn’t until just a decade ago that we quit using ALL CAPS in everything, like it was still 1967.

It’s baffling that we still have to issue watches with expiration times, instead of rolling them along open-ended with the threats, as we discussed among us (“amoeba watches”) for 20+ years. That predates the oft-tested, never implemented concept of “Threats in Motion” for warnings, which is very similar, and which also is long past technological capability for operationalizing. Funding (or lack thereof) has played a role, but in my experience, bureaucratic intransigence and a CYA culture frightened of innovation was at least as responsible.

Independent review would highlight shortcomings — both technological and situational — not to assign blame, but to spotlight areas for improvement. NWS, and the entire weather enterprise, should welcome true accontability!

Filed Under: Weather Tagged With: atmospheric science, damage, disasters, federal government, forecast verification, forecasting, Integrated Warning System, meteorology, science, severe storms, severe weather, severe-storm warnings, verification, warnings, weather, weather damage, weather warnings, wind damage

Clickbaiters Second Guessing Experts: Weather Edition

October 25, 2025 by tornado Leave a Comment

Regarding a severe-weather event with no credible tornado reports (yet) in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex last night (24 October), see this important and concise message an experienced DFW-area TV meteorologist, Dan Henry.

Dan Henry Facebook Post

As someone who grew up in Dallas and understands north Texas weather as well as anyone, I agree completely that many (not all) of these brief/embedded spinups in squall lines can and probably should be covered by severe-thunderstorm warnings, especially when the environment plus 4D interrogation of radar signature tells the experts that small/low-end tornadoes won’t be much different in terms of impact than the severe thunderstorm’s downbursts and nontornadic wind surges themselves. When you’re trying to emphasize impact-based decisions like NWS is, that matters.

I agree with NWS Fort Worth’s decision to cover the threat with severe-thunderstorm warnings and mention the possibility of tornadoes. Issuing tornado warnings for every little detected shear max in such situations is going to end up with high false alarm, messy overlap (more below), and low payoff, in terms of alertness and lives saved. That is because aside from being not much (if any) stronger than the parent storm’s worst winds, such spinups likely will be gone by the time the warning gets out to most in the polygon.

The alternative is layering warning on warning on warning (often with “QLCS tornado” events, you’ll see 3-5 warnings over some spots where they overlap). That confusing mess undermines the purpose and credibility of warnings. I’m an advocate for KISS in that regard, and I don’t mean the late Ace Frehley’s band. 🙂 James Spann has been a big champion for warning simplification in these scenarios too. The NWS Birmingham office has done so too, and I applaud that.

A longtime friend who has been involved in training warning forecasters told me this: “The FWD office explanation shows they were very aware of the environment and the radar signatures. They clearly expected the impacts that occurred and decided a severe warning was warranted. There are a lot of trolls out there thinking they smell blood in the water but instead it’s just their own urine.” I cannot agree strongly enough in this case.

What about environments and storms supporting strong to violent and/or long-lived tornadoes (the sort that kills the most people)? Different story. Yes, those should be warned. Have other NWS offices sometimes missed warnings on such storms? Yes.

This was not that. With 35 years of nationwide experience forecasting severe and dangerous weather, I assess this situation around Tarrant and Dallas Counties last night as not reaching that level, but favorable for brief, transient spinups embedded in a line. The way NWS (and Dan’s crew) handled it is fine.

Tornado science is imperfect and some small/brief events will not be in tornado warnings. Nor should they be! Accept this.

Again, by the time those are detected and the warning reaches neighborhoods, such quick-shot spinups are most often gone, and folks already should be inside and away from windows for a severe thunderstorm anyway. A tornado warning with no or negative lead time is unhelpful.

Obvious negligence is one thing. This was not that either. It was a judgment call, and I’ll take the best educated, best trained, most experienced judgment over some self-proclaimed authority’s Facebook account.

Finally, the last thing NWS needs for conveying clear messaging is second-guessing from anonymous or uncredentialed social-media accounts run by people with vastly less training and expertise, calling themselves “authority” or “weather center.” That’s pure, unadulterated arrogance, and a dead giveaway to keep on scrolling.

APPENDIX

The NWS Ft. Worth damage-survey results available as of this writing follow…
—————-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
243 PM CDT Sat Oct 25 2025

...NWS Damage Survey for 10/24/25 Fort Worth Thunderstorm Wind
Event...

This morning, a team of meteorologists with the National Weather
Service Fort Worth conducted an extensive survey of damage
associated with severe thunderstorms which impacted the City of
Fort Worth on Friday evening. The team`s conclusion is that this
damage was most likely caused by intense straight line
thunderstorm winds.

The team identified a number of locations of tree and light
structural damage across the south central portion of Fort Worth.
Two main areas of concentrated wind damage were observed with this
survey. The first area generally paralleled East Berry Street,
from near Interstate 35, eastward to near U.S. Highway 287. Along
this portion of Berry Street, numerous large tree branches were
snapped, some powerlines were damaged or brought down, a few power
and light poles were bent or knocked over, and some minor damage
to some commercial building roofs occurred. The orientation of
damage in this area was unidirectional toward the east, and
largely consistent with strong straight line winds. Some isolated
damage appeared consistent with wind speeds of 80 to 85 mph,
though most winds in this area likely peaked in the 65 to 80 mph
range.

A second broad area of damage was located in Southwest Fort
Worth, generally bounded on the north by Berry Street, on the
south by West Seminary Drive, on the west by Granbury/Cleburne
Roads, and on the east by the primary BNSF railroad right of way
in south Fort Worth. Within this area, there was sporadic tree
damage along residential streets and within some neighborhood
parks. The roof of one small, older residential detached garage
was partially collapsed near Seminary Drive and McCart Avenue.

As with the first area mentioned in the previous paragraph, the
tree damage was predominately oriented toward the northeast,
parallel with the forward motion of the severe storms that
affected the area Friday night. Based on experience with similar
past survey events, the nature of the damage most likely appeared
to be consistent with strong straight line winds. The damage was
consistent with maximum wind speeds on the order of 65 to 80 mph.

Weather permitting, analysis of this event will continue, and NWS
Fort Worth will share additional information as it becomes
available. The Fort Worth Office greatly appreciates the support
provided by the City of Fort Worth Office of Emergency Management
and the Tarrant County Office of Emergency Management.

Bradshaw

&&

NOTE:
The information in this statement is preliminary and subject to
change pending final review of the event and publication in NWS
Storm Data.

Filed Under: Weather Tagged With: Dallas, damage surveys, Dan Henry, downbursts, expertise, false alarms, Fort Worth, IDSS, impact, impact-based, Metroplex, National Weather Service, NWS Fort Worth, QLCS, QLCS tornado, QLCS tornadoes, radar, situational awareness, social mediarologists, tornado, tornadoes, warnings, weather

Communicating Forecasts for Dangerous Weather: Points and Counterpoints

October 7, 2017 by tornado Leave a Comment

This entry is stimulated by Bryan Norcross’ guest essay in the Washington Post regarding the communication of uncertainty and determinism in the Florida forecasts of Hurricane Irma. Please read this if you haven’t already.

I respect Bryan’s perspective, whether or not I always agree, simply given his extensive experiences in trying to convey the hurricane-threat messages. While doing so somewhat bass-ackwardsly (1-in-1- vs. 1-in-5 or 1-in-3 “odds” as he states), he is arguing for probabilistic forecasting as a solution. Chuck Doswell would appreciate that. Here is a splendid and highly relevant essay by Chuck on weather-hazard decision-making in the face of uncertainty, and another on probabilities in forecasting. Those two pieces also should be “required reading” in this topic.

How those probabilities are translated or expressed don’t necessarily have to be as percentages, or even odds. They can be color fades, categorical labels translated from probabilities, and many other possibilities. It depends on the type of threat and the intended audience. Since intended audiences vary widely, even for the same hazard cause (in this case, hurricanes), and since this source offers multiple *types* of impact threats (wind, surge, heavy-rain floods, tornadoes), the possibilities are numerous. You really need to multiply the threats by the different types of audiences for the information to get the number of ways a forecast can (should?) be expressed. One size does not fit all!

A supply-side effect of taking such an exercise to its logical conclusion is of course a “herding cats” ordeal, where NHC becomes tasked with producing so many different kinds of graphics, texts, and forecast interpretations that the meteorology does suffer…and what good would that do anyone? Meteorological accuracy is at the heart of credibility; without it, all else is useless. Forecasters must not be forced to sacrifice that! Another risk is on the demand side: the “information overload” and head-in-sand or “Ostrich Effect” phenomena.

The bad news is that hurricanes, for their sheer complexity and layers of uncertainty and vast diversity of targeted “publics”, are about the toughest communications nut to crack, front to back. The good news is the same, because once we arrive at better solutions for communicating hurricane dangers, to the most people possible, in the most different effective ways possible, the less-complex weather-hazard producers (heat, for example, or even tornadoes), should be easier to solve from a communications perspective. That’s why I’m glad research efforts and discussion groups like WAS*IS exist, to help to hash these things out.

Still, as a former NHC forecaster and current severe-storms specialist at a different forecasting entity, who has observed closely these developments in the increasingly long time since I left NHC, I can attest that it the hurricane is a nasty hydra — just a big wet multi-hazard mess, tentacles swinging everywhere. Against it we have made amazing progress on the scientific side, but only fits and spurts in terms of COMMS.

Social media is another wild card Bryan didn’t even address, and brings with it a host of challenges in terms of getting the right forecast to the right audience, in the face of lots of rumors, fake forecasts, and non-credible sources.

Another aspect buried in Bryan’s essay, which I’m glad he addressed, is the “limits of science” issue. Excerpt:

    Just about every agency, company, outlet, TV station, website and app — including the National Weather Service, the Weather Channel, and most posts on social media — make explicit weather forecasts of a hurricane’s impact looking days in the future, well before that impact can possibly be known with specificity, based on the modern state of meteorological science.

    These misleading and confusing forecasts are produced by well-intentioned people and organizations because the formats of their text or graphics products demand it. There are seven-days worth of forecast boxes to fill in, so that’s what they do, even though everybody recognizes that the future weather when a hurricane is threatening is unknowable.

As a private-sector meteorologist colleague stated in an offline response: “Essentially we are being required to give a consistent, nearly perfect, 96-hour forecast for these situations because we want people safe (evacuate!) but we don’t want people to spend their scant savings unnecessarily. The problem is, that is beyond the state-of-the-art.”

In a nutshell, unreasonable demands for extended precision and accuracy often are made of forecasters, demands for information that lie beyond the state of the science. This hearkens back to something I have been preaching for years, with mixed effect:

We as meteorologists somehow must be willing and ready to state not only what we do know, but what we do not know.

The obstacle we face in doing so is the CYA cop-out mentality, “If we don’t do it, somebody else will”. Problem is, if the “somebody else” is offering “forecasts” that go beyond the reasonable state of the science, they are not credible! Yet that excuse has been used by managers, both government and corporate, to impose duties on forecasters that go beyond what the science justifies. One company produces temperature forecasts for specific days many weeks out — which is totally unjustifiable rubbish!

I am still not convinced, for a less-extreme example, that a day-7 or day-8 severe-storms forecast is consistently skillful or even useful the great majority of the time. Yet a group of forecasters is mandated to put one out every single night, needed or not, skillful or not, solely because the directives say so. Bryan rightly alludes to this dilemma. And on those (exceedingly rare!) occasions when the forecasters can alert to a hazard 9 or 10 days out? There’s no official means for it. Procedure and policy can handicap hazard communication, in this way, in the ways Bryan notes, and many other ways.

James Franklin, recently retired NHC Hurricane Specialist Unit chief, penned this response, also for Washington Post. The response struck me as overly defensive, even as he was making a valid point about the new “Key Messages” social-media product. Here is an example of that product:

I love this new offering, and wish Bryan had acknowledged it better. One valid question: is it enough? Another: what more can be done with limited time and staffing, on operational deadlines? The answers to those questions may compete and conflict! Bryan didn’t address that.

Still, while I understand and agree with much of what James wrote, I did not see Bryan’s article as an attack on NHC — least of all its forecasting — to the extent James did. Instead I saw it as a call for improved messaging of those forecasts, and not just by NHC! In that sense, Bryan’s piece serves a valuable purpose and is not “a solution in search of a problem”. “Key Messages” is a great step. But it’s not the end-all.

More can be done. More always can. But how, and by whom? Those are tricky questions without easy answers!

That improvement role need not reside solely or even largely with the forecasters themselves. The forecasters are educated and trained not as social scientists or graphics artists, but in this instance, as expert tropical meteorologists. They are the best in the world at what they do, bar none. I see the bulk of needed work — and this applies to other hazardous weather types too — as further along the chain of the Integrated Warning System. This means forecast translation and interpretation, both at the place of production and beyond, in media and emergency management, all the way to the responsibility the public audience has to understand what to do and have a plan in place.

Don’t expect the forecasters to do everybody else’s heavy lifting for them. Their job is to produce the most excellent predictions possible, and as I see it, they do.

Why can’t we as a weather science improve how we communicate hazards even more? Figure out additional ways those outstanding expert forecasts can be translated to even better utility once the data that drives the graphics have left forecasters’ desks. The same applies to severe-storms forecasts, as well as winter weather, heat, flooding, and all manner of weather threats. That is a positive goal and an outcome that I hope the meteorology and social-science communities can continue to work together to accomplish.

Filed Under: Weather Tagged With: communication, forecasting, hurricanes, meteorology, probability, risk reduction, science, severe weather, social science, storm warnings, uncertanty, warnings, watches, weather

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